Monday, December 22, 2008

[ Cloud Computing ] Re: State of affairs : Moving Healthcare Appli cations to the Cloud..

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Jan Klincewicz
<jan.klincewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have sold into many Pharma / Health Care customers, and they do have
> serious compliance issues. That being said, they were often more than
> willing to outsource their operations to HP / IBM / EDS etc. As long as
> SOMEBODY takes care of the compliance issues, I think they will be
> satisfied. There is no real magic to it, other than reams of documentation,
> paperwork, change controls, lock-downs etc.


Hey guys,

I don't think it's as easy with SoX as saying 'as long as somebody
takes care of compliance issues'...

Isn't the point of SoX to impose as many in-house safety measures and
double checks within the company as possible together with reporting
to regulators?
(In)famous section 404 talks solely on internal controls and risk assessment.

This makes me think, that for the cloud to be picked up by big
companies (that have great deal of SoX compliance need), cloud vendors
must provide service that is open to attestation by the customers and
can provide strong assurance (by the application of crypto, protocols,
certificates, etc) so that not just a contract with the vendor, but
used technologies and protocols impose properties needed by the big
business.

I also agree that 24/7 availability is another issue that needs
addressing for mission critical apps to me moved up to the clouds.
Tandem(HP-Non Stop) and few others provide the hardware platform, but
there is also need for replicating protocols, assurance of data
integrity across duplicated nodes etc. It is considerably easier to
run one specialized application on a resilient hardware (stock
exchange, ATMs, etc) than to provide flexible hosting service that
remains resilient.

Do you guys know about any such software solutions? Any pointers appreciated!

Regards,

Daniel

>
> Granted, they are harder customers than most, but there is no compelling
> reason for them to need to do everything in-house as long as regulations are
> met.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Johan Louwers <suntac@dds.nl> wrote:
>>
>> I think that specific clouds will come for for example banking, medical
>> companies and such. The clouds will have been developed with consideration
>> for sox and such requirements.
>>
>> those markets will be small, however the company who will start it will be
>> able to make a fair deal of money from it.
>>
>> regards,
>> johan louwers.
>>
>> -- origineel bericht --
>> Onderwerp: [ Cloud Computing ] State of affairs : Moving Healthcare
>> Applications to the Cloud..
>> Van: Sankar Nagarajan <nagarajansankar@gmail.com>
>> Datum: 20-12-2008 19:28
>>
>>
>> Today,Many IT departments are evaluating the privacy, security, and
>> governance issues of public compute clouds, and some may decide it's a
>> route they're not willing to take. (See Bob Evans' related post on
>> InformationWeek's Global CIO blog : http://tinyurl.com/cloud1 )
>>
>>
>> On the other side ,There is much debate going on in terms of deploying
>> certain consumer and medical/healthcare applications with sensitive
>> or personal consumer data on the cloud (http://preview.tinyurl.com/
>> cloud2) as being 'Un-ethical,Illegal and Untrustworthy"
>>
>> Another point to consider is , Pharma /Life Sciences companies have
>> strict FDA and Sarbanes-Oxley related policies and compliance tightly
>> tied to their IT Systems and operations
>>
>> Given the above, What is your viewpoint on How the trend will evolve
>> for this industry?
>>
>> Do you think this would be one of the Industry verticals that would
>> see a *Lower Adoption* of cloud computing?
>>
>> Do you think Technology and solutions are fast evolving that its a
>> matter of time before Healthcare or Pharma firms will find answers to
>> the challenges faced by them today? or Would the Cloud Vendors evolve
>> specific solutions to cater to this industry alone?
>>
>> Please share your views....
>>
>> - SANKAR NAGARAJAN
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/nsk007

--
Daniel Drozdzewski

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