[ Cloud Computing ] Re: Role of Windows Appliances and Cloud

Could JeOS and Windows 2008 Server Core be some examples of NOT
standard full service OS which may run on a hypervisor ?

Also many developers are actually doing work on runtimes as
Java, .NET, Adobe, etc., not on OSes directly. These runtimes could
be thought as NOT standard full service Virtual Machines.

If think both OSes and runtimes as platforms, then developers' concern
is which platform to choose and how they will evolve.

For solution providers, the questions are which features should be
included in these platforms, and in what priority and timing order.
Features like automatic deployment, scaling(up or out ?), large data
stores, transactions, parallel computing, etc.

Scott

On Dec 23, 9:27 am, "Tao Lu" <taol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Barbara
>
> There should still be some OSes running on top of Hypervisors, can you
> please make your point clearer "however hypervisors appear to be taking the
> competition to standard full service OS to another level."
>
> thanks,
> Tao
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Barbara Bour <barb...@principiainc.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > All,
>
> > Perhaps another thread needs to be spun up. Are we seeing an emerging
> > competition to standard full service OS. Appliances with proprietary OS
> > have
> > been around for ages (NAS, network hardware, cell phones, electronic
> > devices), however hypervisors appear to be taking the competition to
> > standard full service OS to another level.
>
> > Any thoughts?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cloud-computing@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:cloud-computing@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of scottxu
> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:45 PM
> > To: Cloud Computing
> > Subject: [ Cloud Computing ] Re: Role of Windows Appliances and Cloud
>
> > Curious how to define Zero OS. Could Java, Adobe Air, Silverlight,
> > etc., be
> > thought as Zero OS ?
>
> > Possibly there are three or more ways for virtual appliances:
> > 1) Appliances with OSes, dropped on physical machines
> > 2) Appliances without OSs, but with runtimes: JavaFx, AbodeAir,
> > Silverlight, etc.,
> >    dropped on browsers, maybe directly on some OSes in future
> > 3) Applications without runtimes: written in Java, .NET, etc., droppd
> > on some runtimes
> > 4) Possibly other ways
>
> > Don't know how the current status of these types: how easy or what are
> > the issues ?
>
> > Scott
>
> > On Dec 19, 9:59 am, "Mark Yohai" <myo...@trigence.com> wrote:
> > > I am doing research to try to understand the role of Appliances in the
> > > Cloud...as I read much about the ability to move Appliances from on to
> > > off premise operation ...
>
> > > What if any role is there for Windows Appliances to enable organization
> > > to move their pre-existing windows apps up to a cloud like EC2?
>
> > > What I have learned is that most Appliances, and tool sets to build
> > > them, seem to support only Linux - with JeOS ( maybe I read it wrong? )
>
> > > Does the group think there would be interest in a Zero OS Application
> > > based appliance? Such an Appliance would package an Application , its
> > > Identity, Services, Dependencies, Configuration, and potentially even
> > > Data and State - but Zero OS.  Such an appliance could be dropped on a
> > > running instance of an OS.  It would leave no footprint, or alter the
> > > key settings on the machine ( e.g. Registry ).
>
> > > Any and all feedback welcome.
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > Mark
>
> > > ___________________________________________________________
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