[ Cloud Computing ] Re: Role of Windows Appliances and Cloud

Hi, Barbara

There should still be some OSes running on top of Hypervisors, can you please make your point clearer "however hypervisors appear to be taking the competition to standard full service OS to another level."

thanks,
Tao

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Barbara Bour <barbara@principiainc.com> wrote:

All,

Perhaps another thread needs to be spun up. Are we seeing an emerging
competition to standard full service OS. Appliances with proprietary OS have
been around for ages (NAS, network hardware, cell phones, electronic
devices), however hypervisors appear to be taking the competition to
standard full service OS to another level.

Any thoughts?


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Curious how to define Zero OS. Could Java, Adobe Air, Silverlight,
etc., be
thought as Zero OS ?

Possibly there are three or more ways for virtual appliances:
1) Appliances with OSes, dropped on physical machines
2) Appliances without OSs, but with runtimes: JavaFx, AbodeAir,
Silverlight, etc.,
   dropped on browsers, maybe directly on some OSes in future
3) Applications without runtimes: written in Java, .NET, etc., droppd
on some runtimes
4) Possibly other ways

Don't know how the current status of these types: how easy or what are
the issues ?

Scott



On Dec 19, 9:59 am, "Mark Yohai" <myo...@trigence.com> wrote:
> I am doing research to try to understand the role of Appliances in the
> Cloud...as I read much about the ability to move Appliances from on to
> off premise operation ...
>
> What if any role is there for Windows Appliances to enable organization
> to move their pre-existing windows apps up to a cloud like EC2?  
>
> What I have learned is that most Appliances, and tool sets to build
> them, seem to support only Linux - with JeOS ( maybe I read it wrong? )
>
> Does the group think there would be interest in a Zero OS Application
> based appliance? Such an Appliance would package an Application , its
> Identity, Services, Dependencies, Configuration, and potentially even
> Data and State - but Zero OS.  Such an appliance could be dropped on a
> running instance of an OS.  It would leave no footprint, or alter the
> key settings on the machine ( e.g. Registry ).
>
> Any and all feedback welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
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