[ Cloud Computing ] Re: cloud and user experience

You can’t stop commoditization look at the US Auto Industry. I do agree we are experinceing growing pains and on the verge of transformation driven by the worlds necessity to shed all excess.

Nothing at this scope happens quickly but from a historical perspective “Cloud Computing” has been extremely accelerated.



http://www.google.com/trends?q=cloud+computing


So when you look at the chart above are you looking at the upward trend of “cloud computing” in under 24 months or do you think of how important the data that Google has accumulated is to its business and how complicated it was to achieve.

Ultimately we will figure out how to provide the interoperability between cloud providers as long as we all agree on the philosophy of stateless and loosely coupled architectures. There are plenty of people who could exploit this framework to build extremely powerful applications. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinsons_law).

Right now we should concentrate on how powerful the architecture of parallel computing is and reduce variation to a minimum with virtualization (abstraction). Your app developers can utilize a Spring framework to create POJO, or choose PONO (.NET) or C++ to containerize business logic. Your data access layer through Hibernate or some kind of ORM to abstract your data interface. JavaScript, or RMI (Flash, Silverlight, JAVAFX) for your presentation layer.

Experiment with these concepts on IaaS providers, there are plenty to choose from and all very eager to show you how to integrate with their application stack.

-g


On 12/19/08 6:45 AM, "John Brothers" <johnbr@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, I don't see any sort of forcing.  I see Google, Sun, HP, IBM, Microsoft,  Amazon, Oracle and SAP (at least) all working hard to create proprietary platforms that do certain things well, and other things poorly.   I see people building apps to work with one, and having a terrible time integrating with each other.  I see businesses springing up that capitalize on this, and acting as integrators, and providing just enough connectivity that the "big guys" are able to delay standardization for a long time - 5 to 10 to 15 years.

And I don't see any sort of rapid consolidation, interoperability and standardization of Cloud infrastructure.  I'm not even sure what you're talking about.  Can you elaborate?  

Let me make myself clear - yes, interop and standardization would be good things for end users.   Doesn't mean they're going to happen, and a lot of people have a strong vested interest in not letting that happen so their businesses don't become commoditized.
 

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Collins, Jeff <Jeff_Collins@intuit.com> wrote:

But I agree that interoperability will be forced very quickly toward some kind of interop standard.  I also agree that the most widely adopted early protocols will probably just become standard (e.g. OFX).  Identity, authorization, and other standards will quickly become very high priority.

We're seeing the incredibly rapid consolidation, interoperability and standardization of Cloud infrastructure, and I think it will rapidly drive different behavior of applications one level above it in the Cloud.  The end user will benefit because the applications they use will essentially be designed from the start to work together well based on being Componentized from the start as said below.

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