Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Re: Eucaliptus

On Jun 10, 6:38 pm, trevoro <trevo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've downloaded eucalyptus and I've been meaning to give it a try on
> our computing cluster but that very act brought up an interesting
> point - How do you build a community and development team around a
> product that by its very nature requires a lot of computing resources
> to be able to test properly?

Exactly what I wonder about. The knee-jerk mental equation is open
source = Linux = standard. Or Firefox, or OpenOffice. But those can be
played with, modified, compiled, and tested on a laptop. When you
intrinsically can't have that huge part-time army of developers, will
you get the same virtuous effects?

Not that I'm against this. OSS is the clear route for academic
development and experimentation. Globus seems to work. I think.
Haven't been watching. Can't get through the first paragraphs of any
high-level description.

[snip]

> This brings about an interesting question. With standards like OVF
> (hopefully) coming out (http://blog.layerboom.com/node/5) in a few
> weeks that will describe packaged environments, and a whole bunch of
> different VPS cloud platforms currently in development will it be
> possible to share the virtual machines and work done at the OS level?

Somewhat off-topic, but -- virtual machine technology is a means to an
end (utilization, load balancing, failover) within clouds. It's not
the cloud concept itself, it's an implementation technique. But
packaging what you run as a VM image...

Do you really want to package what you run as an (opaque) virtual
machine, or as some other format that the cloud infrastructure has
more insight into? How do you know what to replicate when horizontally
scaling when all you get is a pile of virtual machine images?

> - Trevor http://layerboom.com

--
Greg Pfister

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