[ Cloud Computing ] Re: Zoho Introduces CloudSQL

Here's a mature, web services based set of tools for accessing structured data
(including relational DBs) over the WAN:

http://www.ogsadai.org.uk/about/ogsa-dai/

Tim

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:10:32 -0500
Jim Starkey <jstarkey@nimbusdb.com> wrote:

>
> If it can't do consistent updates and it doesn't scale and it can't
> access systems that do consistent updates and scale, what possible
> relationship could it have to cloud computing other than the letters c,
> l, o, u, and d?
>
>
> Tarry Singh wrote:
> >
> > C'mon, Tarry, give us break. It isn't a database, it isn't
> > transactional (the word "transaction" doesn't even occur on Zoho's
> > site). It's a reporting facility, and one that apparently can't work
> > off live data.
> >
> >
> > I didn't say that it is anywhere close to the RDBMS versions that we
> > have in the market today.And whoever said that OLTP will be the place
> > to jumpstart your CloudDB CloudSQL-like strategy, it always starts
> > carefully with some sort of DWH OLAP facility where a lot of DSS could
> > be hosted elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Jim Starkey <jstarkey@nimbusdb.com
> > <mailto:jstarkey@nimbusdb.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Tarry Singh wrote:
> > > All this is really going to hurt vendors like Sun soooooo bad. A
> > > billion dollars, I am sure Mickos is the only one to laugh out loud.
> > > Soon such CloudDBs will have advanced functions where a lot of OLAP
> > > work will be done without typing those complex commands. As we get
> > > past the SARGs and other manipulative syntaxes, much of the smaller
> > > and bigger DB vendors will have a real tough time in the coming 5-7
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Why I stated Sun is because this time, riding out the recession will
> > > need a lot more than open source strategy like Bob Young used
> > back in
> > > the 90s.
> > >
> > > Anyways back to the CloudSQL, I did a quick run and it seems to look
> > > ok for now. We'l lsee how it further develops.
> > >
> >
> > C'mon, Tarry, give us break. It isn't a database, it isn't
> > transactional (the word "transaction" doesn't even occur on Zoho's
> > site). It's a reporting facility, and one that apparently can't work
> > off live data.
> >
> > It isn't going to bother Sun or Marten in the least. Sun may have
> > deep
> > and profound problems, but Zoho isn't one of them.
> >
> > SQL over HTML? I've heard worse ideas, but not often. If it is
> > displayable, parsing it is an expensive pain in the butt. If it isn't
> > displayable, XML is a better choice.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Starkey
> > President, NimbusDB, Inc.
> > 978 526-1376
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Tarry Singh
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> >
> > >
>
>
> --
> Jim Starkey
> President, NimbusDB, Inc.
> 978 526-1376
>
>
> >

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