Wednesday, December 17, 2008

[ Cloud Computing ] Re: Gartner: Will Cloud Displace Internal IT Services For Data Centers?

@Ray

Really cool on that 1000 servers/1 hour pitch. How do you do that? I'd love to know from you. I know that many of our competitors run in bids with such arguments. I am curious what does that 1 hour fire up 1000 servers replace and more importantly how?

Tarry

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Ray Nugent <rnugent@yahoo.com> wrote:
No you're missing the point. How long does it take you to spin up a 1000 server system in a colo? What are the costs of doing that activity? In my colo you can get your 1000 servers installed, cabled, powered, secured and configured in less than one hour. If you see no value in that then I think we're talking about different things entirely...


From: "Pietrasanta, Mark" <Mark.Pietrasanta@aquilent.com>
To: "cloud-computing@googlegroups.com" <cloud-computing@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:32:11 AM

Subject: [ Cloud Computing ] Re: Gartner: Will Cloud Displace Internal IT Services For Data Centers?

But again, it seems like people are missing the point:

 

1)      Cloud Computing, at least in any of its current and pending forms, does almost nothing to reduce my internal IT staffing needs.  It's no better than Co-Lo in terms of IT staffing requirements;

2)      CC is more expensive than *any* of the alternatives, except in fringe cases (e.g. those with extremely volatile volume changes, and academic/research/"super computing" needs)

 

CC can't possibly replace internal IT services until CC *offers* some form of IT services.  And the costs have to come way way down before it becomes a realistic alternative to Co-Lo (or for the small business, setting up a machine under their desk and hiring a college kid to manage it).

 

From: cloud-computing@googlegroups.com [mailto:cloud-computing@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krishna Kurapati
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:18 AM
To: cloud-computing@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ Cloud Computing ] Re: Gartner: Will Cloud Displace Internal IT Services For Data Centers?

 

My View:

 

It also depends on size of organization. For SMBs, Core applications as well as non-core applications (if any) will shift to Cloud/SaaS model. 

And with recent financial turmoil, many large companies became medium and medium became small :)

 

Any organization adopting cloud would be security/compliance, availability/accessibility.

and portability/migratability. 

 

These requirements overweigh cost advantages depending on the vertical they play into.

 

Krishna Kurapati

Cloud Ventures

 

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:37 AM, nagarajansankar@gmail.com <nagarajansankar@gmail.com> wrote:



Here is an interesting article that appeared yesterday.

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/12/gartner_will_cl.html?catid=cloud-computing

My take  is that possibly Non-mission critical or Non- revenue
generating applications (the so called departmental applications) in
enterprises that may form about 20 to 25% of the total IT
infrastructure and services may find their way to the clouds..

Do share your thoughts...


- Sankar
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nsk007

 










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